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Wiki tables are normally such a pain, but yours look good.
Events should be posted in the correct section, and in date order. An event should NEVER be listed in more than one section (i.e. Ongoing/Continuous events should not be listed in Scheduled Training).  When events begin the same day, events of a longer length should be listed first.  New postings of events with the same date(s) as other events should be added after events already in the list. If a provider offers the same event at several locations simultaneously, the listing should have a single (ONE) entry in the list with the date(s) and ALL locations for the event. Please use three-letter month abbreviations (i.e. Sep, NOT Sept. or September), use two digit dates (i.e. Jan 01 NOT Jan 1), and use date ranges rather than listing every date during an event(i.e. Jan 02-05, NOT Jan 02, 03, 04, 05).<br>
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The problem with the "long list" below is that they are all pasted in and have a lot of html formatting.
<i>Some conferences or training opportunities may be <u>limited</u> to <b>Law Enforcement Only</b> or to a specific audience.  Such restrictions should be noted when known.</i>
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Really, we should have a database for the conferences. Do you know of a plug-in for mediawiki that does it? (I know that plone sdoes it ,but that would be a major overhaul.)(
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This is a BY DATE listing of upcoming conferences and training events relevant to [[digital forensics]].  It is not an all inclusive list, but includes most well-known activities.  Some events may duplicate events on the generic [[conferences]] page, but entries in this list have specific dates and locations for the upcoming event.
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This page is getting pretty long. I like the categories you've made and think they would make an excellent way to break up the page. How about the following:
  
This listing is divided into four sections (described as follows):<br>
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# [[List of open calls for papers]]
<ol><li><b><u>Calls For Papers</u></b> - Calls for papers for either Journals or for Conferences, relevant to Digital Forensics (Name, Closing Date, URL)</li><br>
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# [[List of digital forensics conferences]]
<li><b><u>Conferences</u></b> - Conferences relevant for Digital Forensics (Name, Date, Location, URL)</li><br>
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# [[List of ongoing and continuous training opportunities]]
<li><b><u>On-Going / Continuous Training</u></b> - Training opportunities that are either always available online/distance learning format or that are offered the same time every month (Name, date-if applicable, URL)</li><br>
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# [[List of scheduled training courses]]
<li><b><u>[[Scheduled Training Courses]]</u></b> - Training Classes/Courses that are scheduled for specific dates/locations.  This would include online (or distance learning format) courses which begin on specific dates, instead of the "start anytime" courses listed in the previous section. (Name, Date(s), Location(s), URL) (''note: this has been moved to its own page.'')<br></li></ol>
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The Conference and Training List is provided by the American Academy of Forensic Sciences (AAFS) Digital and Multi-media Listserv. 
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What do you think? [[User:Jessek|Jessek]] 20:36, 17 August 2007 (PDT)
<i> (Subscribe by sending an email to listserv@lists.mitre.org with message body containing SUBSCRIBE AAFS-DIGITAL-MULTIMEDIA-LIST)</i>
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Requests for additions, deletions or corrections to this list may be sent by email to David Baker <i>(bakerd AT mitre.org)</i>.
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== Calls For Papers ==
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I suppose I could break it up. One of the reasons it is all on one page is that many folks want a single place to look for this sort of information. I used to send it by email to multiple lists every month, and some folks complained it was too big, but most people said leave it alone. The move of the list to the ForensicsWiki was to allow me to keep a long list, but have it available on demand, and have it updated in a single location, but still keep the "one list to rule them all" kind of listing.
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|2nd Small Scale Digital Device Forensics Journal
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|Oct 31, 2007
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|http://ssddfj.org/submit.asp
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|International Association of Forensic Science Annual Meeting
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|Jan 01, 2008
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|http://www.iafs2008.com/abstracts/intro.asp
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|Usenix Annual Technical Conference
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|Jan 07, 2008 (11:59PM PST)
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|http://www.usenix.com/events/usenix08/cfp/
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|6th International Conference on Applied Cryptography and Network Security
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|Jan 14, 2008 (11:59PM EST)
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|http://acns2008.cs.columbia.edu/cfp.html
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|Techno-Security 2008
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|May 04, 2008
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|http://www.techsec.com/html/TechnoPapers.html
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== Conferences ==
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Brian already has a "Conference" listing, which lists conferences, and some of the training providers have listings on a page for training providers/software providers. This was added to be the "upcoming" list, which lists everything by date, more for things in the next month or so, but due to complaints by one person or another, I list everything I know about to keep anyone from suggesting I lean towards one provider or another.
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[[User:Frnzxguy|Frnzxguy]] 13:49, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
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I don't know if Brian is maintaining his conference list or not. I would very much like to have a database-driven list of the conferences and training. How about doing it as a Google Calendar? We can link that over here. [[User:Simsong|Simsong]] 22:54, 31 August 2007 (PDT)
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I can look into it.  I have thought about a DB driven approach before, but even with a DB back-end, we still have to think of how we present it to the typical user, and who can edit/update the database. And, with the wiki, it is easy to undo spammer hits to the list... a DB may not be quite as simple to revert, depending upon how it's set up.
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[[User:Frnzxguy|Frnzxguy]] 08:05, 04 September 2007 (EDT)
|6th Annual Internet Crimes Against Children National Conference
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|Oct 15-18, San Jose, CA
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|http://www.icactraining.org/website/registration.html
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|HTCIA Austin Fall Chapter Training Conference
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|Oct 16, Austin, TX
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|http://www.austin-htcia.org/
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|ToorCon 9
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|Oct 19-21, San Diego, CA
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|http://toorcon.org/intro.php
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|BlackHat Japan - Briefings
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|Oct 23-26, Tokyo, Japan
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|http://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-japan-07/bh-jp-07-main.html
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|Global Conference on Economic and High-Tech Crime (Open to all)
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|Oct 24-26, Crystal City, VA
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|https://conference.nw3c.org/index.cfm
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|European Network Forensic and Security Conference 2007
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|Oct 24-26,  Zuyd University, Heerlen, Netherlands
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|http://www.enfsc2007.com/
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|Techno-Forensics Conference
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|Oct 29 - 31, Rockville, MD
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|http://www.techsec.com/html/TechnoForensics2007.html
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|Computer Security Institute Annual Meeting
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|Nov 03-09, Arlington, VA
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|http://www.csiannual.com/
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|First Forensic Forum Conference (F3 Conference)
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|Nov 03-05, Tortworth, England
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|http://www.f3.org.uk/
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|DeepSec IDSC
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|Nov 22-24, Vienna, Austria
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|http://deepsec.net/
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|Digital Forensic Forum Prague 2007
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|Nov 26-27, Prague, Czech Republic
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|http://www.dff-prague.com/
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|PacSec Applied Security Conference
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|Nov 29-30, Tokyo, Japan
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|http://www.pacsec.jp/index.html
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|5th Australian Digital Forensics Conference
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|Dec 03, Edith Cowan University, Mount Lawley, WA, Australia
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|http://scissec.scis.ecu.edu.au/conferences2007/index.php?cf=1
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|HTCIA Asia Pacific Training Conference 2007
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|Dec 12-14, Hong Kong
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|http://2007.htcia.org.hk
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|SANS Security 2008
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|Jan 11-19, New Orleans, LA
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|http://www.sans.org/security08/
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|DoD Cyber Crime Conference 2008
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|Jan 13-18, St. Louis, MO
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|http://www.dodcybercrime.com/
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|4th Annual IFIP WG 11.9 International Conference on Digital Forensics
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|Jan 27-30, Kyoto, Japan
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|http://www.ifip119-kyoto.org/doku.php
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|AAFS Annual Meeting 2008
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|Feb 18-23, Washington, DC
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|http://aafs.org/default.asp?section_id=meetings&page_id=aafs_annual_meeting
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|CanSecWest Security Conference 2008
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|Mar 19-21, Vanouver, BC, Canada
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|http://cansecwest.com/
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|EuSecWest Security Conference 2008
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|May 21-22, London, England
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|http://eusecwest.com/
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|Techno-Security 2008
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|Jun 01-04, Myrtle Beach, SC
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|http://www.techsec.com/html/Techno2008.html
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|6th International Conference on Applied Cryptography and Network Security
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|Jun 03-06, Columbia University, New York City, NY
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|http://acns2008.cs.columbia.edu/
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|Usenix Annual Technical Conference
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|Jun 22-27, Boston, MA
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|http://www.usenix.com/events/usenix08/
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|International Association of Forensic Sciences Annual Meeting
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|Jul 21-26, New Orleans, LA
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|http://www.iafs2008.com/
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|Digital Forensic Research Workshop
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|Aug 11-13, Baltimore, MD
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|http://www.dfrws.org
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== On-going / Continuous Training ==
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== calendar extensions ==
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I've done some research and have come up with three calendar extensions for the wiki:
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# with iCal: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialCalendar
! Website
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# with short blurbs: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Hex2bit/Calendar
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# all: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Calendar
|Basic Computer Examiner Course - Computer Forensic Training Online
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I'm probably going to install one or two of these over the next few days. Any opinions? [[User:Simsong|Simsong]] 23:39, 10 September 2007 (PDT)
|http://www.cftco.com
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:The Hex2Bit calendar looks great, but unfortunately that's the only one that has a screenshot. Do you have a image or demonstration of the the first one (that works with iCal)? Having iCal support would be a great addition, but it's not a deal breaker for me. [[User:Jessek|Jessek]] 06:33, 12 September 2007 (PDT)
|Linux Data Forensics Training
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Okay. The iCal version Extension:SpecialCalendar is too hard to author in, so that one is out.
|http://www.crazytrain.com/training.html
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So I think I'm going with Hex2bit's version. [[User:Simsong|Simsong]] 10:00, 12 September 2007 (PDT)
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|SANS On-Demand Training
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So, let me ask a quick question, if I may. Will users be able to view the list as a list, or will they be compelled to now click through a calendar looking for events?  One of the main reasons I made the list a "list" was to specifically provide a list view. As long as we don't lose that capability, then I think the Hex2bit calendar is fine.  But, if everyone is stuck with a calendar that you must scroll through, it defeats the very reason I compiled the list this way, and keep it updated.... I can go to a vendor site and click through a calendar.
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[[User:frnzxguy|frnzxguy]] 15:55, 14 September 2007 (EDT)
|http://www.sans.org/ondemand/?portal=69456f95660ade45be29c00b0c14aea1
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I agree that the Hex2Bit calendar is nice in that it lists all of the month's activities. I installed it as well and can set it up as a test too, if you wish. I don't like the way you need to manually create each month, though, and I don't like  the way it doesn't show titles in the calendar matrix. The Calendar extension much more  flexible, as it is written PHP and I can easily modify it. The author has asked me to take over maintenance. So if you want the "list view", I could simply develop that and we could test it out before going live with it. 
|MaresWare Suite Training
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|First full week every month, Atlanta, GA
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I think that it's important to have this information here, so let's have our decision based first on presentation and ease-of-use, second on ease-of-authoring. I am happy to develop the back-end code as necessary. [[User:Simsong|Simsong]] 13:29, 14 September 2007 (PDT)
|http://www.maresware.com/maresware/training/maresware.htm
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|Evidence Recovery for Windows Vista&trade;
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|First full week every month, Brunswick, GA
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|http://www.internetcrimes.net
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|Evidence Recovery for Windows Server&reg; 2003 R2
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|Second full week every month, Brunswick, GA
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|http://www.internetcrimes.net
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|Evidence Recovery for the Windows XP&trade; operating system
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|Third full week every month, Brunswick, GA
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|http://www.internetcrimes.net
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|Computer Forensics Training and CCE&trade; Testing for Litigation Support Professionals
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|Third weekend of every month (Fri-Mon), Dallas, TX
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|http://www.md5group.com
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==[[Scheduled Training Courses]]==
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Revision as of 15:29, 14 September 2007

Wiki tables are normally such a pain, but yours look good. The problem with the "long list" below is that they are all pasted in and have a lot of html formatting. Really, we should have a database for the conferences. Do you know of a plug-in for mediawiki that does it? (I know that plone sdoes it ,but that would be a major overhaul.)(


This page is getting pretty long. I like the categories you've made and think they would make an excellent way to break up the page. How about the following:

  1. List of open calls for papers
  2. List of digital forensics conferences
  3. List of ongoing and continuous training opportunities
  4. List of scheduled training courses

What do you think? Jessek 20:36, 17 August 2007 (PDT)


I suppose I could break it up. One of the reasons it is all on one page is that many folks want a single place to look for this sort of information. I used to send it by email to multiple lists every month, and some folks complained it was too big, but most people said leave it alone. The move of the list to the ForensicsWiki was to allow me to keep a long list, but have it available on demand, and have it updated in a single location, but still keep the "one list to rule them all" kind of listing.

Brian already has a "Conference" listing, which lists conferences, and some of the training providers have listings on a page for training providers/software providers. This was added to be the "upcoming" list, which lists everything by date, more for things in the next month or so, but due to complaints by one person or another, I list everything I know about to keep anyone from suggesting I lean towards one provider or another. Frnzxguy 13:49, 28 August 2007 (EDT)


I don't know if Brian is maintaining his conference list or not. I would very much like to have a database-driven list of the conferences and training. How about doing it as a Google Calendar? We can link that over here. Simsong 22:54, 31 August 2007 (PDT)


I can look into it. I have thought about a DB driven approach before, but even with a DB back-end, we still have to think of how we present it to the typical user, and who can edit/update the database. And, with the wiki, it is easy to undo spammer hits to the list... a DB may not be quite as simple to revert, depending upon how it's set up. Frnzxguy 08:05, 04 September 2007 (EDT)


calendar extensions

I've done some research and have come up with three calendar extensions for the wiki:

  1. with iCal: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialCalendar
  2. with short blurbs: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Hex2bit/Calendar
  3. all: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Calendar

I'm probably going to install one or two of these over the next few days. Any opinions? Simsong 23:39, 10 September 2007 (PDT)

The Hex2Bit calendar looks great, but unfortunately that's the only one that has a screenshot. Do you have a image or demonstration of the the first one (that works with iCal)? Having iCal support would be a great addition, but it's not a deal breaker for me. Jessek 06:33, 12 September 2007 (PDT)

Okay. The iCal version Extension:SpecialCalendar is too hard to author in, so that one is out. So I think I'm going with Hex2bit's version. Simsong 10:00, 12 September 2007 (PDT)

So, let me ask a quick question, if I may. Will users be able to view the list as a list, or will they be compelled to now click through a calendar looking for events? One of the main reasons I made the list a "list" was to specifically provide a list view. As long as we don't lose that capability, then I think the Hex2bit calendar is fine. But, if everyone is stuck with a calendar that you must scroll through, it defeats the very reason I compiled the list this way, and keep it updated.... I can go to a vendor site and click through a calendar. frnzxguy 15:55, 14 September 2007 (EDT)

I agree that the Hex2Bit calendar is nice in that it lists all of the month's activities. I installed it as well and can set it up as a test too, if you wish. I don't like the way you need to manually create each month, though, and I don't like the way it doesn't show titles in the calendar matrix. The Calendar extension much more flexible, as it is written PHP and I can easily modify it. The author has asked me to take over maintenance. So if you want the "list view", I could simply develop that and we could test it out before going live with it.

I think that it's important to have this information here, so let's have our decision based first on presentation and ease-of-use, second on ease-of-authoring. I am happy to develop the back-end code as necessary. Simsong 13:29, 14 September 2007 (PDT)