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So, let me ask a quick question, if I may.  Will users be able to view the list as a list, or will they be compelled to now click through a calendar looking for events?  One of the main reasons I made the list a "list" was to specifically provide a list view.  As long as we don't lose that capability, then I think the Hex2bit calendar is fine.  But, if everyone is stuck with a calendar that you must scroll through, it defeats the very reason I compiled the list this way, and keep it updated.... I can go to a vendor site and click through a calendar.
 
So, let me ask a quick question, if I may.  Will users be able to view the list as a list, or will they be compelled to now click through a calendar looking for events?  One of the main reasons I made the list a "list" was to specifically provide a list view.  As long as we don't lose that capability, then I think the Hex2bit calendar is fine.  But, if everyone is stuck with a calendar that you must scroll through, it defeats the very reason I compiled the list this way, and keep it updated.... I can go to a vendor site and click through a calendar.
 
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I agree that the Hex2Bit calendar is nice in that it lists all of the month's activities. I installed it as well and can set it up as a test too, if you wish. I don't like the way you need to manually create each month, though, and I don't like  the way it doesn't show titles in the calendar matrix. The Calendar extension much more  flexible, as it is written PHP and I can easily modify it. The author has asked me to take over maintenance. So if you want the "list view", I could simply develop that and we could test it out before going live with it. 
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I think that it's important to have this information here, so let's have our decision based first on presentation and ease-of-use, second on ease-of-authoring. I am happy to develop the back-end code as necessary.  [[User:Simsong|Simsong]] 13:29, 14 September 2007 (PDT)
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Cool.  I don't have a lot of spare time right now, but perhaps in a month I might be able to look at it.  Let me know the "hows" and "wheres" on the Wiki in order to play with it.  Thanks for looking into this, and who knows, it might just be the ticket.
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Wiki tables are normally such a pain, but yours look good. The problem with the "long list" below is that they are all pasted in and have a lot of html formatting. Really, we should have a database for the conferences. Do you know of a plug-in for mediawiki that does it? (I know that plone sdoes it ,but that would be a major overhaul.)(


This page is getting pretty long. I like the categories you've made and think they would make an excellent way to break up the page. How about the following:

  1. List of open calls for papers
  2. List of digital forensics conferences
  3. List of ongoing and continuous training opportunities
  4. List of scheduled training courses

What do you think? Jessek 20:36, 17 August 2007 (PDT)


I suppose I could break it up. One of the reasons it is all on one page is that many folks want a single place to look for this sort of information. I used to send it by email to multiple lists every month, and some folks complained it was too big, but most people said leave it alone. The move of the list to the ForensicsWiki was to allow me to keep a long list, but have it available on demand, and have it updated in a single location, but still keep the "one list to rule them all" kind of listing.

Brian already has a "Conference" listing, which lists conferences, and some of the training providers have listings on a page for training providers/software providers. This was added to be the "upcoming" list, which lists everything by date, more for things in the next month or so, but due to complaints by one person or another, I list everything I know about to keep anyone from suggesting I lean towards one provider or another. Frnzxguy 13:49, 28 August 2007 (EDT)


I don't know if Brian is maintaining his conference list or not. I would very much like to have a database-driven list of the conferences and training. How about doing it as a Google Calendar? We can link that over here. Simsong 22:54, 31 August 2007 (PDT)


I can look into it. I have thought about a DB driven approach before, but even with a DB back-end, we still have to think of how we present it to the typical user, and who can edit/update the database. And, with the wiki, it is easy to undo spammer hits to the list... a DB may not be quite as simple to revert, depending upon how it's set up. Frnzxguy 08:05, 04 September 2007 (EDT)


calendar extensions

I've done some research and have come up with three calendar extensions for the wiki:

  1. with iCal: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialCalendar
  2. with short blurbs: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Hex2bit/Calendar
  3. all: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Calendar

I'm probably going to install one or two of these over the next few days. Any opinions? Simsong 23:39, 10 September 2007 (PDT)

The Hex2Bit calendar looks great, but unfortunately that's the only one that has a screenshot. Do you have a image or demonstration of the the first one (that works with iCal)? Having iCal support would be a great addition, but it's not a deal breaker for me. Jessek 06:33, 12 September 2007 (PDT)

Okay. The iCal version Extension:SpecialCalendar is too hard to author in, so that one is out. So I think I'm going with Hex2bit's version. Simsong 10:00, 12 September 2007 (PDT)

So, let me ask a quick question, if I may. Will users be able to view the list as a list, or will they be compelled to now click through a calendar looking for events? One of the main reasons I made the list a "list" was to specifically provide a list view. As long as we don't lose that capability, then I think the Hex2bit calendar is fine. But, if everyone is stuck with a calendar that you must scroll through, it defeats the very reason I compiled the list this way, and keep it updated.... I can go to a vendor site and click through a calendar. frnzxguy 15:55, 14 September 2007 (EDT)

I agree that the Hex2Bit calendar is nice in that it lists all of the month's activities. I installed it as well and can set it up as a test too, if you wish. I don't like the way you need to manually create each month, though, and I don't like the way it doesn't show titles in the calendar matrix. The Calendar extension much more flexible, as it is written PHP and I can easily modify it. The author has asked me to take over maintenance. So if you want the "list view", I could simply develop that and we could test it out before going live with it.

I think that it's important to have this information here, so let's have our decision based first on presentation and ease-of-use, second on ease-of-authoring. I am happy to develop the back-end code as necessary. Simsong 13:29, 14 September 2007 (PDT)


Cool. I don't have a lot of spare time right now, but perhaps in a month I might be able to look at it. Let me know the "hows" and "wheres" on the Wiki in order to play with it. Thanks for looking into this, and who knows, it might just be the ticket. --Frnzxguy 13:32, 4 October 2007 (PDT)